Whoomp! There it is! Reginald D Sits Down With DC Glenn of American Hip-Hop/Pop-Rap Duo Tag Team : Motivational Speech

Reginald D sits down with the legendary DC Glenn,  a famous rapper, actor, motivational speaker, and voice over artist from Atlanta. DC Glenn rose to fame as part of the hip hop combo group called Tag Team, known for their hit song "Whoomp There It Is." They discuss his upbringing, his move to Atlanta, and his experiences as a DJ in the city's top clubs. and the creation of Tag Team's iconic hit, "Whoomp There It Is." 

1. "The Power of Education and Seeking Knowledge"
2. "Embracing Innovation and Different Paths to Success"
3. "The Art of Hustle: Planting Seeds and Taking Action"
4. "Finding Life-Changing Nuggets of Wisdom"
5. "Putting in the Work: Hustle, Combinations, and Figuring Things Out"

Tag Team Back Again – Whoomp There It Is!

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Welcome to Reel Talk with Reginald. I'm your host, Reginald. On today's episode, I have DC Glenn. DC Glenn is a famous rapper, an actor, motivational speaker, and a voice over artist from Atlanta. He rose to fame as part of the hip hop combo group called Tag Team with the hit song, Wound. There it is. Welcome to the show, DC Glenn. What's going on, man? Good to be here. Not much. DC the brand supreme in the house. You know it. Really appreciate you taking the time out, man, just to hang out with me for a second. I know you busy and everything like that. Really appreciate it. I ain't never that busy to run my mouth. Let's do this. So, let's talk a little bit about DC Glenn. You were born in Denver, Colorado? Or raised in Denver, Colorado? Born in Chicago, but we moved to Denver when I was about five years old and had an incredible childhood living in Denver, Colorado. Went to school at Sac State University. And after I finished, came down here to Atlanta and have been in Atlanta ever since 1989. And this is the hub of everything, you know, black culture. It always has been. You know, here in DC, I would say, right? And that's what really enamored me about being in Atlanta is that back then when I first got here, it was black folks living in harmony. And what still is to this day is more of a mixed pot, but it's still kind of that same vibe and, you know, things change and you have to change with them and you have to adapt with them and you can't wish for the old days. You know what I'm saying? You got to make the new days what you want them to be. And a lot of times people not willing to put the work in to do that. So I'm not one of those people. I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to hustle. I'm going to play offense and I'm going to get mine. That's it. So when you went to Atlanta to, I guess, visit the first time or whatever, you got a taste of and you say, man, this is a place I needed to be. Yeah, I came down Christmas time to visit Steve Rowland because he was going to the Art Institute and him and his cat named brother Jeff took me to Magic City. And right then and there, I knew I was moving to Atlanta. Right. We partied that for Christmas and New Year's, partied New Year's with Guy and I moved down here within a week. I was the head DJ at Magic City and that just changed my whole trajectory. And it just immersed me in a culture that I kind of was the genesis of as far as music. Right. Because being a DJ at Magic City and all the top clubs, everybody came to me. I didn't have to go in the streets. The streets came to me. So I knew everybody before I even was an artist. I got there when Bobby Brown got there. I got there when L.A. and Babyface got there. I got there with all the people who have made Atlanta what it is. Dion Sanders, Dominique Wilkins, he always was there, but those cats made Atlanta what it was. And I like to think I'm a teeny weeny part of that because I was DJing all the clubs and I was the soundtrack to people's lives back then. I heard when you got the opportunity to DJ, people just gravitated to how you was putting things together and how you was throwing the sound out. I've always been professional and my upbringing in hip hop is a little bit different than everybody's because I was exposed to all forms of hip hop because I got the bright idea, well, let me order records from the East Coast, down south, L.A., San Francisco. And I would order records from all the hood record stores. So I knew what was going on in every hood as far as people dropping records because they probably press up about 500 records, give it to the record stores. And they would usually be white labels. A lot of them wouldn't even have anything on them or they just have the title on them. And I still have those records to this day. But being immersed in everybody's culture through music, like knowing that Queens Bridge doesn't like Brooklyn and the Bronx and Brooklyn battle each other and Staten Island comes about and everybody's representing their borough. Same with down south, you know, Miami bass, everybody's representing Miami bass. But then when I moved to Atlanta, I got introduced to Atlanta Southern bass and L.A. I was in all that when NWDA and all that first started because back in California, back in the late 80s, Dr. Dre was doing up tempo music because everything comes from Planet Rock. Everything comes from the up tempo electronic music, Kraftwerk, you know, Dr. Dre surgery, Egyptian Lover, right? All of those records were up tempo in part. And coming down south, I knew I couldn't just keep making hip hop. So I knew we had to make a bass record. And I went to Steve, I was like, hey man, we got to make some up tempo stuff. We will never get out of here. You know what I mean? And he was like, I can't make that bass stuff. But I was like, just do it your way. Just think Planet Rock, right? Egyptian Love. And he put the beat together. I had the song already because Womp There It Is was becoming a popular party chant in the clubs. And that was our first attempt at an up tempo record. First time I played it. I played it at work on a Thursday night. And as soon as I dropped it in a cassette, because back then we go to the studio and get a cassette, then I go play it at the club to see what it sounded like, see if I mixed it right and all that. Everybody start running to the DJ booth and to this day is the biggest response on any record I've ever had, ever played in my DJing career. And I've been DJing for almost 40 years. So my hubris as a young man, I was like, I'm always going to make it. I'm always going to have a hit. I'm always going to be fly. I'm always going to do this. So I kind of shelved that record. But then later on that year, one of the girls, Cherry, she was like, how come you don't play Womp There It Is no more? And I was like, I'll play it. Played it, same thing happened. And this time there was a record rep in the house named Alan Cole. And Alan Cole took that record and said, what is that? I was like, that's my new record. He's like, give me that record now. I'm taking it to New York because he worked for Columbia Records. He was a Southeast regional rep. And now I'm getting calls from Columbia Records. I'm like, this could work for every label. So now I'm giving it to all the labels, all the labels pop it to me. But back then it was just New York and LA and they didn't really know what to do with a bass record. So I almost gave up to this beautiful lady named Lisa McCall. I was like, you need to talk to Al Bell. And for those who don't know who Al Bell is, in the beginning of soul music, there were three labels, Philly International, Motown, Berry Gordy, and Stax Records, Al Bell. Right? Fast forward, he put out a record the year before we did ours called Daisy Dukes by Deuce. And it went gold. So I was like, well, shoot, I can live with that. So I gave him a call and took about two weeks to hit me back. I was like, look, dude, I got a hit record, I tested it. The whole city's blowing up on it. People asking for it. And I can't even give it to him. It's like you really need to sign us right now. He was like, OK. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, don't play with me. You ain't even heard the record. I'll never get these words. He was like, brother, I don't have to hear the record. I hear it in your spirit. Let's agree to agree. Get this thing moving. I was like, bet. I gave my two weeks at Magic City, signed a messed up record deal. And in a month and a half, tag team was flat. The rest is history. Wow. So I read somewhere that DC was on fire from that song because you mentioned in the beginning that DC's in the house. It looks like everybody thought we was from DC. So it blew up in DC, right? Right. And then there are several pivotal moments. Ryan Cameron used to work at V103. He's a jock in Atlanta. And V103 didn't play rap, but he would take the instrumental and play it as a music bed when he made announcements. So people in the streets knew it. So they start calling and asking for it because everybody wanted that record. And we're the reason V103 started playing hip hop in rotation. Then Ed Lover was a good friend of mine because everybody had to come to Magic City. When they came to Magic City, they met me. They come straight to the DJ booth, especially artists. And Ed Lover was like, what the hell is that? And I was like, that's my new record. He was like, money, give me that. And I was like, here you go. And he was like, man, I can't do nothing with no cassette because all I had was cassettes back then, right? And I said, when I get vinyl, we gonna hook it up. And he came down like a couple of weeks after I left Magic City and I met him down at Magic City, gave him some vinyl. And that next Monday, he went back to New York, got on Yo MTV Raps to play the Wump. There it is instrumental like Ryan Cameron did. And it just blew. Everybody was like, what is that record? What does that beat? And then people started hearing that record. And then the real big pivotal one was the Bulls won their third championship. And I'm sitting on my couch in Atlanta, Georgia. And back then there was only two cable channels, WGN and TBS. That's why everybody loves the Braves and the Cubs. And they had their third championship parade in Grant Mark Park, 500,000 people. And now everybody's on stage chanting Wump. There it is. And I'm listening to 500,000 people chant Wump. There it is in Grant Park. Then we were out of here. I ain't stopped since. I mean, I've had trials and tribulations and detours and whatnot, but that's life. I don't even, you know, when you're going through it, you can either look at the glass half empty, look at the glass half full. I'm a person that looks at the glass half full and I take trauma and turn it into treasure. And anything bad happens to me, I vow that I will educate myself so it will never happen again. And that's where I sit, where I'm sitting. But I still got a ways to go, but you know, ain't nothing but work. And that's what I love about it. That's it. So when you say you had a missed a record deal, what was that about? I mean, every artist signs their first deal and their first deal is not optimal for every artist. Think about how many records you've heard in your life and then how many artists are still making records, right? Not many, because it's about the deal. So we signed a non-optimal deal that didn't get us what we needed. And it just was a traumatizing experience because it stopped us in our tracks and everybody goes through it. Now we didn't get hit like a lot of people got hit because there's people that have never gotten paid. But because we wrote the song, we get writers royalties forever. But the other side of it is the sink fees and when people use it in a movie and people use it in commercials. That's where we went wrong. So all this time, if it's in a movie or if it's in a commercial or whatnot, it's like people ask, do you get paid? It's like very, very, very little because of the contract we signed. So it used to bother me for the first couple of years afterward, but then I take full responsibility as a grown man. You know what I'm saying? I signed that contract, so now you gotta fix it. And I've spent 15 years fixing it because it was in a 15 year legal battle because it was two record companies fighting over the rights to whom there it is. So they were using us as the pawns in the middle, but I was like, I'll bloody each other up. But at the same time, I could have became an old bitter rapper. But I basically was like, I'm gonna get my day in court. You better figure this out. And I basically became a paralegal. Learn what emotion was, learn what discovery was, learn how trials come to fruition, learned how to use razor, not razor, is it razor? I think it's called razor or laser, which is the database of all court cases in the history of the United States. So now I can go look up case law of people who went through the same thing I went through, like Bismarcky and Vanilla Ice because of the sample. And now I can strategize and just figure out what happened, right? And we got our day in court and we prevailed, but it's always at a cost. So you go to war, you gonna come back with an eye patch, you gonna lose an arm, you gonna lose a leg. You gonna be messed up in the head a little bit, just pins, but you still living. And it's up to you to use life and ride it till the wheels fall off, right? So back then, I remember I was sitting in a movie theater, I think it was 2003, and I look up and I'm looking at Will Ferrell dance on the table to my song and it pissed me off. But I had to push that to the back of my mind because that doesn't serve me. But then I was like, you got a forever hit record because this is in a hit Christmas movie, it will be played every single year forever. It is up to you to go get your money. And that was my life's mission, you know what I'm saying? Even if I'm not getting paid, I'm gonna squeeze something out of that opportunity. And that's what I've done. And I got my skills together because I worked in the clubs, I was able to take lessons in learning voice. So I was able to use the club as a petri dish for marketing and putting together business plans and making the business better and being the fashion photographer. Like I'm not just a DJ, because I've been DJing forever. I'm your light guy, I'm your sound guy, I do your radio spots, I do your television commercials. I take pictures of the girls and get them in magazines. You gotta hire 10 people to do what I do. And I try to tell people I come across that people love to complain and be the victim. But I'm like, if you got a job and you don't like your job, well learn what everybody else does in the hierarchy of that organization. Maybe you can get to a higher level and you might like that job because of that organization. But if you don't be proactive, because that's what I would do. I learn everybody else's job. And if the boss comes in and be like, where's such a such, man, I need to do that. I'd be like, I got it, I got your boss. And what that does, most people be like, I ain't about to do all that extra work. But they don't understand what it is. When you learn somebody else's job and they tell you how to do that job, even if you get fired, even if you quit, you have just elevated yourself to the next level of your goals and dreams because you've got more skills in your toolbox to be better. To me, it's education. To me, it's put on gain. It's seeking that knowledge. And that's what I do in every situation I do. I come across, I take one opportunity, I turn it in 10. I got to say no to 80% of the stuff that comes my way just because I'm focused on the things that I'm doing now. I'm glad you didn't say no to me. Nah, man. This is, I'm telling you, man, podcast for me, being a guest on a podcast serves 15 different purposes. I'm practicing articulation, practicing diction, practicing storytelling. I'm looking at you, making sure that you're not looking at your watch or you're not doing something else, I have you engaged. And the more I run my mouth, the more I come up with analogies, metaphors, because you're asking me questions and you wanna know more and we all are trying to solve people's problems, right? Because that's my thing, you give what you want first. That's why I'm blessed. Because I'm not worried about the money. I'm not worried about none of that. I wanna tell everybody, my whole, I've told this, I've been telling people this for years. I said, I will be the guinea pig. I will go out there and learn it all because people just have a habit of wanting to be the victim. They don't teach us that. They ain't supposed to teach you that. And I will go be the guinea pig, learn what they know, bring it back to the street game, make the street game better. Now that I've told you, are you willing to put in the work? I can tell you 99% of people ain't trying to put in all the work that I put in. And that's why I want it to be hard because I know everybody else ain't gonna do it. I'm about to take a course that costs $7,000. And I am torn because I mean, damn if I'm gonna pay $7,000 and I don't get, but I'm like, I know these people know they thing. And I know if I take this, that $7,000 is a drop in a bucket to what is gonna net me. It's an investment in me. Right, but most people don't pull the trigger because one is they're scared. Two, they kind of don't know and don't wanna get beat out of money because there's so many profits. But these cats that I'm in masterminds with now, they know they stuff. And I know they know they stuff because they telling me I know my stuff. And now we tweaking. Like I'm masterful in SEO, I'm masterful in AI, masterful in marketing, masterful in all aspects of this. And I'm still trying to learn because people say, what do you want DC? Because I ask people at all time, what do you want? They can't tell me. So they try to, the defense is, what do you want? I'm like, I want mastery. Man, you ain't gonna get mastery. All right, maybe I won't, but I'm gonna be in the ballpark. If you're in the ballpark, you're getting paid. So that's my philosophy. That's what I do. I do that with every aspect of everything that I do from getting concerts, from being my own publicist, from being my own booking agent, from being my own everything. Because I'm in organizations that I can go talk to somebody and they tell me how to do it. And being in an organization might cost you two, $300 a month. Because in an organization, those people have been in that organization for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, and they love their profession. And they can't wait to tell you about it. So I just joined organizations. And I try to tell people that. And once again, I've given you the game, but are you willing to put in the work? Are you willing to go to conference after conference and meet hundreds of people and get new circles of people that can help you get to the paper? And that's what I do. And then through SEO, all SEO is, search engine optimization, the ability to get on the first page of Google is getting in front of the people who can pay you. What else is there? That's what I do. I get in front of the people who can pay me without them even knowing that I'm in front of them. I'm not running up to people and say, hey man, do this for me. Can you help me this? How do you do? No. I put myself in front of you where you say, wait a minute, where do I know him from? Because when I go to conferences, people don't even know who I am because of how I carry myself. And I prefer people just from my character. And because I was raised right, and I know humanity because I've been a DJ all my life. So I know what not to do. I know how to talk to people. I have the gift to gather. I spit this game. So I can go to any room, white, black, indie, I don't care who they are. And I can draw them toward me. And then some way, somehow they'll find out who, that's the dude that's saying, whoomp, there it is. All bets are off now. I got you. And now I can get what I want, but I can help you too. So you giving me your expertise and then I'm helping. I'm out here running around figuring out AI. So here's the thing. People say, if I say AI, right, we start talking about AI, people are like, man, I'm gonna mess with that. That's the government, ba-boom, ba-boom. They're gonna be surveilling you and all this and all that. And blah, blah, blah. People think Terminator and they think, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger, they think Will Smith, I robot. They think the world's gonna end. And I'm like, so I really don't say AI when I want to convince people about AI. I just tell stories. I'm like, there was this dude who used to have to write websites, he couldn't write that well, but he started using this tool and this tool helped him become the best writer he has ever been right now. There's also a cat that uses this tool who comes up with ideas for marketing and business. And now what used to take him six months to do takes him six days or six hours. And I tell all these stories about people who this tool's life have changed. And then I say, and all those people I just named to you are me. That's what it's done for me. And that's what gets them. And it's like, I've been more productive than I could have ever been in my life. There is nothing on this earth I don't believe I can't do. Because now I got tools to help me do it. And I put in the work, right? So whether it's getting concerts for tag team, whether it's getting a cut from people saying, man, do my website, I can't do, I'm not about to do your website, but I got some people that are rocking what it's gonna cost you, but they're the best. Get a piece of that. Like there's all kinds of ways to get this money. And that's why I love what I do because I get to do a bunch of things a little bit. And then every blue moon, a commercial will come up, a TV show will come up where we do a performance. We perform, we got three NFL performances this year. Those opportunities to do press releases and create the relevance, not to say, hey everybody, look at me, look at what I'm doing. You create the relevance to get in front of the people that can pay you at your time and choose them. So when it becomes, when everybody starts looking for state fair, when it comes to six months before state fair season, I pull something like that and then send everything out to all the state fairs. Now we gonna pull five state fairs for a year and they're the most lucrative shows that there are. We're on three tours right now. All this comes from SEO, all this comes from digital marketing, all this comes from me being my own publicist. Because once you learn something and you put in the work, now you get to be creative with it. And then what happens is, our people don't realize that culturally, they will never have what we have. So when we take what we have and put it to their game, only people that can do it is us. That in itself got me hype, but I realized that a long time ago. And then this is what I wanna lead people with, because this makes you truly free. Don't nobody owe you nothing. Ain't nobody gonna give you nothing. And don't nobody care. Once I realized that a long time ago, everything opened up for me. There are no excuses, there are no missed opportunities. You can correct everything as long as you breathe. That are you willing to put into work. And that's what I talk about all the time. If you're not willing to put into work, you just wasting your time. That's what happens. And then what happens is, life passes you by. And that takes years off of your life. Just that right there. But it ain't about money, it's about a fulfilling life. And people with DC, you're lucky, you get to do this. Yeah, but that's not true, because I'm a minnow compared to Taylor Swift or Beyonce. But I can SEO my way to Taylor Swift and Beyonce. You see what I'm saying? I can be in their orbit because I put in the work to be able to promote myself in that way. Example, Taylor Swift is in the same city. This year we probably had shows with Taylor Swift in the same city. I could do a blog post about that experience. Talk about how bad traffic was. Talk about how I wish we could have opened up for her. Rank that blog article and make that news globally. Just because I wrote an article about Taylor Swift or Beyonce or Vanilla Ice or any other person. It's about putting in the work to come up with different combinations and figuring things out. And then you can have a course and make millions of dollars with a course and teach everybody else. That's why people make so much money on courses because they know that most people aren't going to implement what's in that course. They want it to be easy, everybody wants to push a button. And now I've got what I want in life. You know it don't work like that. So that's why I do a podcast every day because I know that me sitting here running my mouth and telling people what I'm telling them, you might take one thing from me that changed your whole life. Because I've done that with other people. I might know 90% of everything I know, but that one little thing takes me up to 100%. So that's why y'all always listen. I just hustle. Right? That's right. I plan to see you play offense. I keep it moving, man. That's awesome. That's awesome. This didn't go the way you thought it was, did it? I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Oh yeah, yeah. And that's why I love doing them because people think we're going to talk about tour bus stories. That's just like, we ain't talking about music. We talk about this hustle. We talk about the game. Right. Because everybody has a pain point. And I spend my time trying to answer people's pain points and give them solutions. Because all I do is try to give people solutions and come up with solutions to problems. So that's why I say don't hang around negative people. They'll bring you down. I'm like, what if the people you love most are the most negative? Better figure it out. And I love that because if you're negative to me, I don't react like, man, you don't know what you're talking about. I take the approach, what if what they were saying is right? What would I do about it? That in itself is a solution. Now they might not know what the hell they talking about, but I do the exercise because now I have a solution to put in my toolbox of life. So if I come up against it, I have reference to it. Or if somebody comes to me complaining about whatever, I make a solution. I ask them what they want. Then I'll give them a solution. Or if somebody comes with an excuse, man, you can't do this because of this, this, this. Oh really? Okay. In that case, all I can do is be the example. I ain't about to talk about it. I'm just about to show you. And I'm not even gonna have to say it when it happened because you're gonna look me in my eye and know that you didn't know what the hell you was talking about. You don't want it with me because I'm gonna figure it out, period. So I take that approach to everything and trust me. All this stuff I'm talking is way easier said than done. But I've been shucking peas and stemming collard greens since I was five years old. My parents worked me and my brother like a dog. You know what I'm saying? So as a grown man, I have never not known work. I had a paper route. I hustled raking leaves and shoveling snow. And I've had a job since I was eight years old. So I've never not known work. So for me, work is nothing. If you want what you want, okay, let's get to work. Because the quicker you get to work, the quicker you get to where you wanna be. It might take a lifetime. But that sometimes is what it takes. You know? I mean, I ain't the smartest dude or I wouldn't have signed a messed up record contract. You know what I'm saying? So when you're young, you do things like that. And they have long lasting effects, but you can let that be your legacy and it break you down or you can fight and educate yourself in a way where you're glad that that happened to you because you might not be where you are if that didn't happen to you. You might not be on this level of all kinds of different things preparing for a TED Talk. You might not be able to do it because you're about to speak at Harvard and MIT about AI. What? I might not even be on this level if I don't sign a messed up record contract. And that's why when you have traumatic events that happen in your life, you have to vow to yourself that it'll never happen again and you gotta learn how to make that not happen again. And it's hard. I ain't saying none of this is easy. It is the hardest thing I've ever had to do until I do it. And then it's on to the next hardest thing so right now I'm having fun. We're touring, gone every weekend. Got a couple of weeks off now but we're getting ready for football season and NBA season. Do halftime shows, just finished state fair, the state fair season. Now we're about to hit the casinos and do, we just, you gotta know something if you have a career, a 30 year career on one song. This is 30 years. When there is came out 1993, this is 30 years. Check this out. Check this out. I read something about a group called 95 South, right? Yeah. They had a Woot, there it is. And it kinda got upset with you guys but at the end of the day, I don't know those guys. So I played the song like the other day, Googling. Everybody was like, I didn't hear that song. And it's crazy because they weren't the only ones. Woot There It Is was a party saying. Nobody invented it, right? Somebody did, but don't nobody know who. Somebody heard it from somebody else that heard it from somebody. But to say that it was stolen, can't do that because every club in the South was, everybody was rocking it. Plus at that time there was four other Woot There It Is records. People don't know about it. Everybody was trying to do Woot There It Is record back then. But because of who I was and where I was, I had people who would take it to different regions and play it. And then Al Bell is old school. He's old school music industry. He knew what to do with a hit record. And he put the money behind it and he blew it up. And everybody else stayed regional. And we went global. It was over before it started. But people wanna, I'm not saying they wanna bring it up in a negative way, but you read things like that. And people sometimes feel a certain type of way. And that's fine, man. That's fine because everybody know the truth. Everybody in Atlanta know the truth. And hey man, it was just a song. Everybody thinks it was just like this Manhattan project where we was building a nuclear bomb. It wasn't nothing like that. It was just a song about dudes having fun on a Friday night chasing women drinking. Like every country song, like every rock and roll song, like every blues song. That's the foundation of music. Men chasing women drinking. So, and I'm cool with everybody. I don't even allow that stuff to get riled up. And it's just like, I'm still here. You know what I'm saying? That gotta mean something. The crazy part about Woke, there it is. The longevity of the song, man. And it keeps just keeps going after all these years. I got a nine year old grandson that knows the song and can rap it and everything. He knows the lyrics to the song. It's crazy. But you know, and see that's, see here's the things that people don't know. That Woke, there it is has been regurgitated to every aspect of culture, every aspect of life. Example, 1994 we did a record with Disney called Woke, there it is. Where I taught Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse how to rap. And now that record lives forever because parents will buy that record for their children. And then their children learn what Woke, there it is is. Because it's number one on the track. We were first song on Jock Jams first, the first issue. Every stadium around the world, every arena around the world, every high school, everybody that played music and sports had Jock Jams volume one. And we were the first song on the Jock Jams. Then you get to the 2000s and then you got Go Noodle and you got, what's the other one? It's just like kids, these kids, they redid it as a kid's record. And then they did a video to it. And then for the preschoolers, when they wanna put them down, they wear them out with Woke, there it is, kids version. But then for the first graders, second graders, they let them hear it. If they're good on Fridays and they sit there, they party on and have snacks to Woke, there it is. People sent me videos on this, man. And all this stuff was licensed. And that has been going on since 2000 and it's still going, all these kids are still looking at that. So fast forward to the Geico commercial, when a parent is looking at that Geico commercial and their kid is looking at that Geico commercial and their kid is like, what you know about this? And they're like, what you know about this? That's why, because kids have been bought up to Woke, there it is, and parents remember it from partying. So old meets new. And now they get to see who we are in a Geico commercial. That's the biggest Geico commercial there ever was, according to Geico. That's like, you tripping. I said, bigger than the caveman? He's like, yep. It's like, bigger than hump day? He's like, yep. I'm like, wow. So I was trying to get more, I was like, I'm not gonna do commercials for a while because just like Woke, there it is. There's no way we'll ever make another Woke, there it is. People say, why don't y'all do new music? Because I've got a forever hit record. Why would I? Plus that time has passed. I do music again, but I'll do it in a different way. And with the commercial stuff, there's ways to do it, but got a little time passed. But then I'm milking it because everywhere we go, we did a minor league baseball game Saturday in Scranton. And they put us in the concourse and we was there the whole game signing autographs. There was 150 people in line the whole game, waiting for an autograph for us. And the thing that was said the most, I love that commercial. I love you guys so much. Because that commercial came during the pandemic when everybody was at their wits end. You know what I'm saying? And everything was political and everything was COVID and people was lying and then just cut through everything and bought people joy and a sea of sorrow. And I hear stories every day. My daddy had COVID and that used to just bring him joy and he hung on. Every time he heard that record, he'd just be happy. And those are my baby's first words. Somebody sent me a video. Every time that commercial come on, the dog go crazy. How's that possible? So I'm humble enough and more mature enough now to say, how can I take this opportunity and turn it into 50? And that's what I've done. So I don't need to do another commercial until I wanna do another commercial. Plus I'm an actor. I've been in movies and television. I've had a good time. But right now my focus is AI and digital marketing because I'm not letting life pass me by. And I watched that happen to my father. My father has a doctor degree. He was Dean of University of Colorado Ethnic Studies. He retired in like 2000 and he never learned how to use computer. And I know he'd still be here today if he could just type into a computer and get some information like we all do that we take for granted. But he realized it when he was like, I want one of them iPhones. I was like, all right, if you don't know how to use a computer, you're gonna be short on the iPhone because all that iPhone is a computer. So to watch that and understand what that was because it happened to me because when vinyl started fading out and all these DJs start DJing with CDJs, I was like, I'm old school. I never DJ with no damn CDs. Y'all got me messed up. And all these young cats start whupping my ass and I had to catch up real quick. And I vowed then I will never do that again. But in the process of learning things, things do pass you by because when things are bad, sometimes that's the time you pull the trigger. You know, the housing crisis, that's when you buy a house because they're so cheap. It's always gonna go back up, but you don't realize that till a little bit later in life. So when these new technologies come out, I'm not gonna be behind and I'm gonna take these new technologies, learn what they know, put the street game to it and try to teach everybody and show everybody there is a way. All I can do is be the example. So when people see me on a TED Talk or when people see me on 60 minutes or when people see me do something because that's what I plan on doing. Those are my goals to be on that level. Then I will have made the whole game better. But it's always gonna go back to, are you willing to put in the work? And most people aren't. So that's why we struggle. You gotta get that ground. You got the ground, man. I love hustle. I ain't had no woman in so long because the hustle is my woman. I'll kill for that, well, I'll kill for my boo, boy. Hustle is my woman for real. I love her to death for real. So, until I reach my, you know, I have high goals and like I said, I've had to fight. I've had to fight, not stereotype, I had to fight through myself. I had to fight through all my bad habits, fight through all my misconceptions and fight through all the things that kept me back because the only thing that holds you back is you, especially now. What about your environment? Well, in your environment, you got a cell phone, don't you? Yeah, well, if you just keep typing in how to, how do I? How do I do this? You're gonna get an answer for it. But are you willing to put in the work? The whole point, you don't need no money, put in the work. Educate yourself. People go into a bank all the time. Can I get a loan? So, that's the equivalent of a crack head coming to me saying, hey man, let me get a loan, I'm gonna pay you back. You already know that you ain't gonna give him no money when he walk up on you. That's how banks see people. So, if you don't go in with your stuff together with a business plan, with projections, if you don't go in to where they say, you know what? This might work. You're gonna always fail. And then you're gonna get mad and then you're gonna make excuses, man. They just did that because I'm black. Nah, man, that ain't the reason. You can think that's the reason all you want. I said, man, because you black, the world is yours. That's how I look at it. Because I'm black, there ain't nothing I can't do. That's how I feel. I don't care what nobody say. And part of it is certain things you gotta be quiet about. Certain things you gotta shut the hell up and you can get your money. But if you do it and you raw raw about it, somebody gonna be like, well, why he got and I don't? Well, why are they getting it and I'm not getting it? As soon as I get into Congress, I'm gonna make a law to where it makes that hard for them. Everybody be mad at the government. And I'm like, the government is making them laws for somebody. You need to figure out who they making them for, adjust your hustle and then get the benefits of that law. Not when the government's against me. And my favorite one is just the conspiracy. The government gonna put chips in us, they gonna do this and the retina scan. Man, I ain't doing none of that stuff. It's like you do it already, dude. I said, you got TSA pre, yeah. Do you got clear, yeah. You got Delta digital, yeah. Two of those got retina scans. One of them got a finger scan. Got your whole fingerprints. And then TSA pre can jump into all the database and see what your background is. So they know everything about you already. People don't even see how simple that is. They wanna make it so complex. And I'm like, you go to clear and they say eyes or finger and you look into it, clear, boom, you walk cause you want convenience. You want those comforts. Are you willing to sacrifice your comforts for, but you're not gonna travel unless they know who you are. But everybody wants to blame the government. Everybody wants to say, hey, they don't teach us that. I'm different, man. I really am. And when I explained that way to people, they understand what I'm saying. The only thing stopping you is you. That's it. This is you being authentic. You're your own authentic self. Yeah, man. And that's what they teach you in acting. You are enough. All your experiences, everything you've been through is special. You are enough. Like man, you're a Wump there. Like I was telling you, Wump there, you're Wump there. You get to do this. Yeah, no, I don't. I get discriminated against every single day because I got one damn song and don't have a whole catalog of five albums. So I don't figure out a way to get past it. Cause it's like, everybody's like, man, you gotta do social media this. When I try to help people, you don't do social media. I do it in a different way. And I don't need what everybody else need. First of all, I don't need the attention. And my philosophy is I don't need 100,000 people to like me. I just need 100 people to pay me. Life is that simple for me. That's all it is for me. So what can I do to get 100 people to pay me? Well, you target them, you're strategic. You get in front of the people who can pay you with the services you offer, with the talent that you have or with what you can do for them or what you can learn from them. That's how I became a good actor in Atlanta. Got in front of all the casting directors, got in front of all the coaches. I took every class from every coach. Then left them a Google review. Now everybody sees that I went to that class. So they call me saying, DC, is that coach good? Yeah, you need to go mess with them. She got me on point. I've created my own relevance. Now other acting coaches say, hey man, can you leave me a review? Cause I'm bringing people money. Same with casting directors. Casting directors, they're the ones that pick people for movies. So if somebody gets greenlit in LA, they looking for a casting director in Atlanta and they pull up somebody and they see their Google reviews and I'm first because I know SEO and I know how to optimize my picture to where it sticks at the top forever. Come on man, this is hustle. All it is is hustle, thinking differently, figuring things out, coming up with a new way because everybody's following each other, which is great for me because I ain't following nobody. I'm trying to come up with a new way to do something because there's always a new way. That's why it's called invention. That's why it's called innovation. There's always a new way. There's always a way that somebody didn't think about. Every artist success story is different. Everyone is different. And most people think they know how people got put on and it's totally different for what happened. So that just lets me know that there's nothing I can't do because I'm gonna figure out five different ways to do it differently. I'm gonna test them and then if it don't happen, I'm not emotionally tied to it because I just plant seeds. And what happens is I tell people, you don't plant a seed and sit down Indian style and look at the seed, be like, all right seed grow. Man, the seed ain't growing y'all. Man, the seed sucks. I quit. How many people we know like that? Took a real estate course. Like I'm about to be rich. You see them six months later, we're having a real estate course. Well, you know, it wasn't for me because you plant them seeds and you keep it moving. I'm in the business of planting seeds. I planted a seed called woomp. There it is 30 years ago and now it is a Sequoia. It ain't going nowhere. And that's what I've done. And they come back and hit you in the head. You don't know how they're gonna grow. And sometimes in life, you're just not ready, but it comes back. And you'd be like, wait a minute, I can revisit this now. So to me, there's just no excuses. There are limits, but there are no excuses and there are no missed opportunities. So I don't buy it, man. I don't buy it. And a lot of this is a pep talk for my own ass. But since we've been talking, I don't come up with 10 more hustles just from talking to you. That's why I do these. It makes me better. And it's just win-win for everybody. Now that's gonna pee people who are skeptical, but hey man, it ain't for everybody. It's not. How many times you heard it? If it was easy, everybody be doing it. It's not easy. Very difficult. It's gut wrenching. But you know, man, I can take it. I got thick skin. That comes from years of experience. And that's why I tell these old cats be hating on the young cats. Like why don't you learn what they know? Because you got something they'll never have, which is experience. But if you keep hating on them, you just sound like an old bitter dude and ain't nobody gonna mess with you. You look crazy. And that's what happened. I embrace everybody. Even if they don't know what they talking about. Because there's clues in that negativity. There's nuggets of wisdom in that negativity. Always. That's where it's hidden. That's where the most positive stuff is hidden, in the negativity. But people don't see it that way. People wanna be in their feelings about it. And I be in my feelings about stuff, but I don't react. I keep it inside. And then what eventually happens, five, 10 minutes it goes away, or it turns into positive energy because I get an idea from that negativity that catapults my game to a whole nother level. It's just about using all these tools that life give you, man. And I'm just good at it. And I'm writing books. I'm doing all kinds of stuff, man. So I'm having a good time, man. And I'm about to get on this mastermind next couple minutes and help some old people. Because batting up, throwing back ideas back and forth, you get more ideas. So I've been blessed. I appreciate all the love that people have given Womb. There it is. And given me over the years. And it's been my honor to rock people's houses, to make a song that people will enjoy forever and make them smile. And my biggest honor is just making the city of Atlanta dance for 30 years. Because I was rocking them clubs, boy. So I wanna thank you for letting me come on here and run my mouth, because that's what I do. And hopefully your people got some wisdom out of it. And people are like, how to contact you? Well, all you do is type in tag team Womb. There it is, DC Glenn, because I do SEO. I can be found. Getting from the people who can help. Getting from the people who need your services. Getting from the people you can help. So that's how this goes. I got one more thing for you. No problem. What would you say to the younger generation that's trying to get into the music industry and what are some of the do's and don'ts? Because a lot of them are trying to do it. It's funny, because I get calls every day of, hey man, can I be on your agency? Can you put me in the game? And I'm like, my agency's for tag team. I just run my own agency. But I'm not doing that. I'm not messing with no artists. That's not my game. What are you trying to do? And they're like, well, I wanna sing for you. No, you ain't doing that. What do you wanna do? First, you gotta know what you wanna do. Then, if somebody who got a hit record and still doing it after 30 years and they're still doing it after 30 years, you gotta give them some advice. You need to take it and do whatever you can to implement that in your game, no matter how weird. Because you know nothing at this point. All you know is what you see on TV, a person being a star. So I say, okay, I'm not about to waste my time with people. I said, all right, what you trying to do? And they tell me, I said, well, give me your email. I'm gonna send you some homework. And when you finish this homework, hit me back. And they never call me back. And so I said, I don't wanna lose my job with that person. They're never gonna anxious to pay the dues. If you're �ries, I mean you just want to start running a business. And a business is a kind of organization that can explain to you how to run a business. Once you start learning how to run a business, you'll know how to run your own music business. Once you learn a music business, then start reading some books, or go get a YouTube video, and learn about music publishing. Because everybody, don't I gotta go to the clubs? Don't I gotta get a bunch of women? Don't I gotta do this? Don't I gotta get my sound right? Don't I gotta get this? I was like, dude, all that's moot point if you sign a messed up contract. I said, you can have a mediocre record, and if you know music publishing, that record can last forever, because you can license it to movies, commercials. You know what I'm saying? You can eat off that record forever, but you gotta know music publishing before you jump in, because you gotta know what your rights are. I can tell you this because I went through this. So, if I had known music publishing, whole different ball game. Whole different ball game. My life might have been different. So, I take responsibility for every mistake that I've made, and all you young people, don't let life get too far by you without taking responsibility for the mistakes you make. Because when you take responsibility for the mistakes you make, that allows you to move forward to the next mistake you're gonna make. But you won't make them same mistakes again. And it's okay to make mistakes. That's what it is. Don't everything work the first time. You know what I'm saying? The first time you cook some ribs, it ain't gonna work the first time. You can follow that recipe to the T. Third, fourth time, hey man, it's kinda taste, hey, okay. You might not know how the meat work. You might not know what season is to put in the barbecue sauce. You might not know the smoking process. You might not know all these things. But you think you're just supposed to throw a slab of ribs on the grill, and it's gonna come out like the best ribs ever? Nah, don't work like that. Learn music publishing if you wanna get in the game. You do that. There's tons of stuff out there about it. Get a book and read it. Mark it up so you know what to look for. Learn the language of the music industry. That's how I got good at finance. I learned the language. That's how I get good at every genre of thing I go into. I learned the language first. Now I know what the hell they talking about. I had to do that working with the legal situation. What the hell they talking about? Let me go look up these words. Let me fit, you got a phone that you can say, what does this mean? Or what does this mean? However you wanna say it, and it will give you an answer. There's no excuse, man. So that's my advice to young people trying to get in the music industry. There you have it. DC Glenn, brother, I appreciate you taking the time to stop by today, it's been fun. I appreciate you too, man. Y'all take care, peace. Thank you for tuning in to Real Talk, Reginald. If you enjoyed the show, please share with anyone that you feel the need to take this journey with us on being a better you. See you next time.